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The following interview with PGR4 Producer Peter O'Brien was originally featured on gameproducer.net. You can read the full interview here.

Peter O'BrienWho you are, where you work and what are you working on at the moment?

My adopted name at Bizarre Creations is 'pob' (An abbreviation for my real name of Peter O'Brien) ... very English, very northern! Located on the North West of England, UK (Liverpool) I lead the Production of PGR4; you can sneak a peek here.

What inspired you the most, to become a game producer/developer, or did you just fall in to the position after a period of time?

I trained as a 3D designer; the aim was to create 'real world' Products such as furniture, social space, kitsch objects or sustainable products. However, the most valuable lessons formed around design thinking; the why, what, who and why again.

Still, frustrated with the limitations of 'real world' design and a lack or technical skill and conflict with what defined a 'product' I was inspired by Metal Gear on the PS1. Over time I realised where my skill set lay.

I was young (ish) and headed for London as a Game Tester at Sega Europe. Arriving just in time for the Dreamcast launch 'crunch'; armed with a creative ego and a 'how to' attitude I was a Producer managing European and Japanese titles within 18 months. The rise was a little quick but I remember sleeping under my desk and going offsite, shacked up in a hotel to help ship MSR ... you could say they were my game producer stripes. I don't regret a single day!

Not everyone can apply at a studio and become a producer immediately. What advice do you have for those out there who want to work for a professional game studio and eventually become a producer?

Production has many faces in our industry; there is little or no standardisation of the term so you will rarely receive the same answer where you most expect it. Skillset (in the UK) are trying to address this.

What are the most important parts in the job application? What kind of applicants have higher likelihood to get a job?

CV's are an ice breaker; but what it sounds like is crucial. Does it sound naive? Does it sound ill informed? Does it sound legible? Does it sound egotistical? First impressions count. A friend of mine used to be a recruitment consultant and it was common to simply remove two thirds off the top of a paper pile ... culled! I'm glad to inform you that smaller developers are not as radical as that in my experience. Qualifications are only a part of the criteria (small part); in Production, experience rules.

That said, the basics need to be there - legibility, what drives you and positional skill relationship based on experience or tools you would use in that position. Once in the interview situation, be natural; do not try to be what you think someone is looking for; learn to read people and adapt to the questions if necessary. If you are a natural communicator there should be very few issues, if you are not ... work at it.

I once bought a book on IQ tests because I knew the company would lay it in front of me ... I can't stand the stuff, it's a false measurement; but I did it and walked through that phase of the interview. Be committed; think every interview is your first. Another story I have is I once interviewed an extraordinary applicant but due to my lack of Production experience in hiring skilled programmers I allowed my impression to be overruled. This same coder, within a month, had two AAA companies bidding for him. What did I see in him? His ability to go after something, commit to something (if memory serves well he decided 12 months previous to be a coder and so gained and MBA in Maths and a Computer Science degree in one year while fathering children, working a job and coming home to a wife). Like I said, extraordinary; I am still in touch with him today despite never working with him.

As a game producer do you have any say in who is hired to your team, and if so what would you say the ratio is for new employees who are 1) experienced college graduates 2) new college graduates 3) those who don't have a degree but have demonstrated their abilities through independent/personal projects?

We have very talented and very experienced Leads and Managers as part of the Production/Development teams. As Producer I believe everyone can be managed, its part of what I do; it's more important that those working with new candidates warm to them and respect their work. I would never expect the final call on which tools programmer, environment artist or game programmer we should hire.

The flexibility I have is that I can be as involved as I need to be but there are others who are better positioned to make the call and the final say sits with our Directors, for us its about maintaining a company attitude and ethic.

We dominantly invest in experience but we review every CV. We invest time and effort in fresher days, recruitment agencies and word of mouth. We also take on staff in various project phases and since the MSR days; if someone stands out... they are offered a position. I don't want to estimate a split as I don't have all the information.

If somebody wants to get a job in the gaming industry, what would be his next step? Where and how can he find a job? (for example: what would be a good website or resource to check out?)

Skillset is pretty much a one stop shop.

Datascope hooked me up with a role at Hothouse and have continued to supply details almost monthly. Fortunately I am in a position to turn then down, despite some of the opportunities.

Its never a bad thing to contact developers directly; from a European perspective TIGA is a good place to start for contact details.

Thanks to the fantastic wikipedia, you can also get a global list.

General Advice:

Artists: Pay attention to your portfolio. However, think about how you package this - the font you use, the layout, the packaging. What is your folio trying to communicate? No experience is negligable if you show talent or ability; not all developers are looking for the same thing.

Programmers: Demo, demo, demo! Make sure the demo reflects the role. If its gameplay, make a game... forget graphics and focus on logic. If its graphics, show technique and problem solving skills to issues that are not lifted from a book or the same as your graduate mate also applying for the role.

Designers: This is a tough one. Key components are communication skills, problem solving skills. An ability to express oneself clearly is crucial. How do you show how you think? You don't need code to make a game. Knowledge of fundamental design rules/history/principals is essential.

Testers: Keep an eye out around platform launches and ship dates. If you know a game is shipping in April then apply in January to see if they need support. Platform developers or large publishers is a good place to start, but if you can get into a development house you will learn the ropes. Above all, engage developers once you are there... they are people just like you.

There are many layers to most roles; the key is to prove you have the ability to contribute to a team. It won't always be easy getting a response, and expect rejection. You should learn from every experience and not fear a change of approach.

To summarize in one sentence - what a enthusiastic game developer needs in order to get a career in the gaming industry?

Measured enthusiasm which reflects a learned attitude about the role; understand the company you are applying to and prepare to adapt but be truthful with it.